
The Tension
We all feel it—the tension that comes with change, growth, and big decisions. It’s the space between where we are and where we want to be.
These tensions aren’t just challenges to overcome; they’re shaped by conscious and unconscious decisions that rarely have clear right or wrong answers. In each episode, we explore topics of leadership, business, family, and life, unpacking the push and pull between how things are and how they could be.
Episodes
10 episodes
The Tension of Friendship and Partnership
Can you build a thriving business with your best friend? In this episode of The Tension, Travis Penfield sits down with long-time friend and business partner Hunter Lloyd to unpack the messy, rewarding, and often hilarious reality of n...
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47:28

The Tension of Independence and Influence
What do we gain—and what do we give up—when we chase independence or influence? In this episode, Travis sits down with Lincoln Rock, Vice President at 49 Financial and a standout Gen Z leader, to unpack one of life’s most formative tensions. Fr...
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49:25

The Tension of Ambition and Contentment
Can you be driven to succeed and satisfied with where you are? In this deeply personal episode of The Tension, EVP David Farrell unpacks his own journey through burnout, success, self-worth, and learning how to let go.F...
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49:59

The Tension of Plans vs. Reality
What happens when your perfectly laid plans unravel? In this episode of The Tension, Travis sits down with Chase Bertrand—husband, father, and top financial advisor—to explore the lifelong challenge of navigating the gap between what w...
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45:54

The Tension of Getting It All Done
Can you really "have it all"? And if so… how do you do it all?In this episode, Travis sits down with Co-Founder Kyle Sims to unpack the real-life pressure of trying to get it all done, in all the roles—leader, parent, spouse, fr...
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52:06

The Tension of Legacy, Leadership & Becoming Your Own
In this honest and reflective episode, Travis sits down with Greg Rosner, Vice President at 49 Financial, overseeing Charlotte and Jacksonville, to explore a relatable tension: How do you honor the legacy of your parents while still forging you...
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52:20

The Tension of Risk vs. Reward
Is having certainty before decision-making necessary? What if confidence comes from movement, not certainty? In this episode, we’re joined by Tim Rodgers, MVP of Northwest Arkansas and Kansas City at 49 Financial, as we unpack the tension betwe...
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47:11

The Trusted Advisor Tension
How can advisors move from founder-led growth through referrals to becoming trusted advisors to the clients they want to serve? Sean Johnson, CEO and Founder of Madison, joins Luke Winskowski and Dan Wanous to share lessons learned from e...
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38:21
